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Interview With An Exorcist – Part 4

August 31st, 2005 · 1 Comment · Paranormal

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After posting part one, part two and part three, here is the 4th interview in the exorcism series:

Interview No. 4.
Location: Riyaadh, Saudi
Arabia Date
2/4/88

Name: `Abdullaah Mushrif al- `Amree
Date of Birth: 1964 CE
Place of Birth: Riyaadh
Education: BA from Imama Ibn Sa’ood Islamic University in the field
of Hadeeth.

Q. Exactly when did you begin to treat possessed people?
A. I began reciting the qur’aan over the sick approximately two
years ago.

Q. What made you decide to begin this/?
A. I am not of those who haphazardly begin to treat people. I first
noticed that this sickness was common. I was working as a member of
the Morals Commission (Hay’at al-Amir bil-Ma’roof wan-Nahyi `an al-
Munkar), following the statement of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).

“Whoever sees evil should change it with his hand. If he is unable,
he should change it with his tongue. And if he is unable to do [even
that], he should hate it in his heart, and that is the lowest
[level] or faith.”
As a member of the Morals Commission, we
arrested a number of people from a variety of backgrounds. These
individuals admitted exploiting the ignorant masses in the most
repulsive and gross ways. They were using a variety of amulets and
charms, which all involved shirk. I was assigned as the imaam of a
masjid. A lot of people came to me with different ailments so I
recited over them regularly. This was not connected with any special
treatment. Any imaam of a masjid can read for people, however, there
are some conditions for recitation. One should have strong faith and
full trust in Allah. The Prophet (PBUH) said, “If you trust in Allah
as He deserves to be trusted, the angels will shake you hands.” I
found that people were greatly benefiting from these readings. Among
the problems they faced was the effect of the evil eye. The Prophet
(PBUH) said,

“The evil eye is real. It may put a man in the grave and a camel in
a pot.”

Asmaa’, the daughter of Aboo Bakr, said to the Prophet (PBUH), “O
Messenger of Allah, the Ja’far clan is affected by the evil eye.
Should we do incantations for them?” He said, “Yes, for if there was
anything which could overcome destiny, it would be evil eye.” And
Ibn Baaz mentioned that whoever denies the entrance of jinn into
humans has told a lie against the divine law (sharee’ah). There are
very clear proofs of this taking place. After being appointed the
governor of Taa’if, `Uthman ibn Abeeal –Aas came to the Prophet
(PBUH) and informed him that he was getting confused in his prayers.
He explained that something was interfering with his ability to
perform prayer and to recite the Qur’aan. The Prophet (PBUH)
said, “Come here. That is a devil.” When he came close, the Prophet
(PBUH) said, “Get out enemy of Allah, I am the Messenger of Allah.”
So what was he telling to leave, sickness?.. And he also said, “Get
out, enemy of Allah,” and we are prohibited from cursing sicknesses.
After that, “Uthmaan ibn Abee al-`Aaas said that for the rest of his
life he was never again confused in his prayer. That was a devil
called Khanzab. Also, when the Prophet (PBUH) was on a journey with
a companion named AbooYa’laa. Shaddaad ibn Aws, a woman came to them
with her son, red over him, blew in his mouth and said, “Get out,
enemy of Allah. The woman offered the Prophet (PBUH) two goats and
some fat. He told Aboo Ya’ laa to take the fat and one of the goats
and return the other. Allah has also said in the Qur’aan: “Those who
eat interest get up like one stumbling from Satan’s touch.”

Q. How long have you been imaam of the masjid.
A. I have been the imaam for three years. After the first year of
experience with people coming of readings and consequently getting
better, I began to research the subject of possession thoroughly. I
gathered the classical reference works containing the information on
this, I studied causes of these sicknesses, methods of treating them
and specific verses which should be recited during treatment. Praise
be to Allah, I was able to master this subject and began to treat a
few people at a time. Eventually, my high success rate became known
and people came in droves. If people had not found any improvement
after my treatment, no one else would have come.

Q. Could you describe your methodology in curing the possessed?
A. The fist thing to understand is that seizures (sara’) are of two
kinds. The first types are seizures of the brain, which can only be
treated in the hospital. The Qur’aan cannot cure it. An example of
this is a case of the woman who came to the Prophet (PBUH) and
informed him that she was overcome by seizures during which she
would tear off her clothes. He told her. ” If you wish, I will pray
to Allah on your behalf, or, if you wish you may be patient and
Paradise will be yours.” She asked him to pray on her behalf in
order for her to stop exposing herself, which he did. The second
types are seizures caused by the jinn –possession of humans.
Sometimes it is due to the jinn’s love obsession with humans, desire
to punish or merely scare them, and at other times due to magic or
the evil eye. The recitation of the Qur’aan over them once, twice
three times or more cures them.

Q. Do you use any particular verses?
A. There are no special verses besides Aayah al-Kursee, al- Faatihah
and the mu’awwithataan, which were all mentioned in very strong
prophetic traditions. Otherwise, all of the Qur’aan is blessed.
After recitation, I communicate with the jinnee, which will say, for
example. “I am in love with her.”

Q. Do you use any other supportive techniques along with your
recitation?
A. Yes. Some jinn will only leave if they are beaten. Continuous
recitation is sufficient to make some of them communicate; yet
others will only communicate if I grasp the neck here (i.e., on the
jugular veins). Then they reveal the reason for their possession of
the human, which is either out of love or caused by magic or the
evil eye. The Prophet (PBUH) said that the evil eye is real and
attended by the devil. I then order the possessing spirit to leave
after telling it what it has done is oppression, which is forbidden
in the Qur’aan and Sunnah. I may quote that hadeeth qudsee in which
Allah said:

“O my servants, I have made oppression forbidden to Myself and
prohibited it among you, so do not oppress each other.”

And also the Prophet’s statement:

“Oppression is darkness on the Day of Judgement.”
If a man is possessed by a female jinnee out of love for him, I tell
her that her possession is oppressing him.

Q. Do female, Muslim jinn sometimes possess people?
A. Yes. Female jinn will possess Muslims and cause seizures. I tell
the jinnee that her possession is not an expression of love but one
of harm, and I ask her to depart and do not return. I have her swear
by Allah not to possess male or female Muslims in the future. If she
is a disbelieving jinnee, I invite her to Islam. In fact, a number
of them have accepted Islam from me-all praise is due to Allah-
around thirteen or fourteen Buddhists, Christians etc.

Q. Do female jinn always enter men and male jinn enter women?
A. Yes. That is the most common occurrence. Although it is very
rare, a male jinnee may also possess a man, perhaps only in 10
percent of the cases.

Q. If the jinnee speaks, does it speak with the man’s voice?
A. Sometimes it speaks with the man’s voice and sometimes with a
female’s voice.
About 60 percent of the time, the jinnee communicates with the
possessed person’s voice.

Q. I notice that you have with you bottles of water and olive oil.
What is their purpose?
A. I will explain this to you. The Prophet (PBUH) said:

“Eat olive oil and anoint yourselves with it; for verily, it is a
blessed tree.” The olive tree
is a blessed by which Allah swears in the Qur’aan. I recite some
verses from the Qur’aan over the oil and the person rubs some of the
oil on the part of their body, which gives him pain. In any case,
everything is by experimentation, even medical knowledge. As to the
water, I also recite over it and they drink it. If the person
experiences gradual improvement-by the grace of Allah-fine, because
the jinn cannot withstand contact with the Qur’aan. If the person
drinks the water and rubs the oil and finds himself becoming uneasy
and irritated, it means that he is possessed by a jinnee. So, it is
used to determine the nature of the illness, like a medical
examination. This method has proven itself effective in the vast
majority of cases. There are other methods being used, but the best
is by using only the Qur’aan.

Q. Do others assist you by holding down patients?
A. Yes. If the man is possessed by a female jinnee-and a female
jinnee is stronger than ten men-it will require at least ten men to
hold him down. It happened in my home recently that I recited over
one man who suddenly became incredibly powerful. He leaped up and it
took about ten men to hold him. I am usually assisted by the
patient’s relatives or friends. If I find that there is something in
him, I ask them to hold him steady so that he will not punch or kick
me. Sometimes the jinnee will speak immediately, so I recite few
verses and it leaves right away. The jinn have different strengths,
for some are very strong and yet others are quite weak.

Q. What is the purpose of depressing the jugular veins?
A. Sometimes it is only when the human mind is unconscious that the
jinn appear. I hold them lightly and not in a way which could lead
to strangulation. This has happened at the hands of some
inexperienced exorcists. The comparison is like the difference
between the treatment by a qualified doctor and someone just
beginning their studies.

Q. Do you tie strings around the fingers around the fingers and toes
during the treatment?
A. Sometimes there are cases when a man comes with is wife,
informing me that she is possessed by a jinnee. When she is in my
presence the jinnee leaves immediately, but by the time he takes her
back to his car, the jinnee returns. This type of jinnee is maarij,
and the only way to hold him is by tying the strings. Therefore, I
tell the husband that if the jinnee returns, he should tie string
around her fingers and toes and bring her back to me. In this manner
it is caught and cannot escape.

Q. How are the fingers and toes tied?
A. A string is tired around each finger and each toe separately. The
string should both be very tight. On one occasion a possessed woman
was brought to me with their fingers and toes tied. I began reciting
over her until the jinnee screamed and said, “I swear by Allah that
I will leave.” I said, “No. I will burn you with the Qur’aan, the
words of Almighty Allah. I will not let you go. You have become
imprisoned by Allah and then by me.” It promised over and over again
to leave and never to return again. At that point, I untied her
fingers and it left through her fingers.

Q. Do they always leave by the fingers or could it be through the
toes?
A. It could be either. Occasionally the jinn will seek permission to
leave through the eyes or the head. I tell them no., leave from
here, and they depart from where they are commanded.

Q. Are there any signs which let you know which part of the body
they are leaving from?
A. Yes. The arm or the leg will begin to shake, sometimes
moderately, and sometimes violently, until the movement gradually
subsides, indicating that the jinnee has left.

Q. When you use beating in your treatment, on what part of the body
do you apply it?
A. The patient should only be beaten when he has become unconcioius
and the jinnee has appeared. And even in such cases, it should not
be severe. It is preferable to hit the back or the shoulders, the
point of the body where the jinnee seems to be residing or different
parts as it move. At times the patient may be conscious, and he can
identify the movement of the jinnee about his body.

Q. What percentage of your patients are men and women?
A. I would first like to point out that people’s abandonment of the
Qur’aan and the sunnah is what has caused them to be afflicted by
possession. For example, when I encounter a person who says that he
feels depressed or bored with life and subsequently recite the
Qur’aan over him, I find a female jinee present. When I ask why she
possessed him, she replies, “He does not pray.” Allah spoke the
truth when he said:

“And whoever turns away from remembrance of the Most Merciful [i.e.,
Allah], We appoint for him a devil as a companion.” (Qur’aan 43:36)

And the Almighty said:

“And whoever turns away from My remembrance will have a wretched
life, and We will gather him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.”
(Qur’aan 20:124.)

So after the jinnee leaves, I advise the patient to fear Allah,
establish his prayers
At there proper times, and read the Qur’aan regularly. By the will
of Allah, it will never return. I tell him that if he does not do
these things or only does them for a while then stops, it may
return. Regarding the percentage of patients, it is about the same.
However, I have about 5 percent more women patients than men due to
general weakness of women in comparison to men.

Q. What benefit does a jinee get from possessing a human?
A. In the case of a female jinnee possessing a man out of love, it
has intercourse with him n his dreams and takes pleasure in this
way. Sometimes it may take the form of a woman, but even then it
will have intercourse with him while he is sleeping. Most often this
occurs during dreams. Otherwise, the jinnee just disturbs him based
upon the fact that it was sent by a magical spell or in revenge for
some harm done to it by the person.

Q. Is there a particular part of the body that the jinnee occupies?
A. In the case of women it usually occupies their wombs, and in the
case of men it usually settles in their chests.

Q. Are there degrees of possession?
A. Yes, there is a complete and final possession. When a jinnee
first enters the human body, it only has a partial hold. It takes
time for it to completely possess the individual.

Q. From what parts of the body do they enter?
A. They enter mainly from the feet.

Q. Have you encountered cases of more than one jinnee possessing a
single person?
A. On many occasion during exorcisms it becomes evident that the
person has within him more than one jinnee. After expelling one, the
person still exhibits signs of possession.
When I recite over them, another entity emerges and speaks in a
different voice, using a different name.

Q. Does the qareen (the companion jinnee) assigned to every man from
birth possess, or is another jinnee?
A. No. It is another jinnee. It is the qareen, which the Prophet
(PBUH) said, flows into the bloodstream, but it is another jinn,
which actually possesses.

Q. Does the Qureen harm its human companion?
A. Sometimes its strong whispers swerve the human away from
performing prayer, remembering Allah and helping the needy.

Q. During an exorcism have you ever experienced the jinn trying to
possess you?
A. No, never.

Q. Are all of the patients brought to you cases of true possession?
A. No, but I recite over everyone. Illness due to biological causes
may be cured by recitation, depending upon the level of the person’s
faith. The companions of the Prophet (PBUH) used to recite al-
Faatihah over those stung by scorpions, and they were cured. What
about a few microbes, which enter a person? He should seek help from
Allah believing that Allah has revealed within the Qur’aan a cure.
He should rely upon it with sure faith and sincerity as Ibn al-
Qayyim said, “If every sick person recited the Qur’aan over himself
with certainty of faith and sincerity, no sick person would remain.
Almighty Allah informs us;

“If We revealed this Qur’aan on a mountain, you would see it humbly
crumbling out of fear of Allah. (Qur’aan, 59:21)

And he said:

“And We reveal within the Qur’aan healing and mercy for the
believers. (Qur’aan 17:82)

And elsewhere:

“O mankind, there has come to you from your Lord a good advice and
healing for what is in your chests. (Qur’aan 10:57.)

Some of them have aliments, which cannot be diagnosed, in hospitals.
For example, when one afflicted by the evil eye is checked in the
hospital, they will not find anything wrong with him. Others have
sicknesses, which can be treated medically. Not everyone over whom I
have read has recovered. I recommended that those with physical
ailments be treated in a hospital.

Q. Have truly insane people been brought to you for treatment?
A. Yes, such people have been brought to me. I usually tell them
that if the hospital has diagnosed their ailment and identified its
cause, there is no need to bring them to me. However, if the
hospital is unable to identify the cause, I will try to treat them.
Sometimes the jinn will cause a human to act in an insane manner.
There was a young man who was admitted to Taa’ if Psychiatric
Hospital whom I treated, and he was cured. His condition was caused
by jinn-possession. The jinn used to speak through his voice and
cause him to make strange movements.

Q. What are the signs and symptoms of possession?
A. I first ask the patients some questions. I ask if they experience
states of depression, headaches, continual movements in the bodies
or disturbing dreams. If that is the case, they spend the night at
my house, and I ask them to inform me when the condition comes. I
then recite over them. If I find them shaking or breathing strangely
when I recite, I continue reciting until they scream and the jinnee
starts communicating. I ask it why it came, and it reveals the
reason, for example, magic, the evil eye, etc. I take from it a
solemn oath to leave and not to return. The patients then find out
all of their ailments are gone.

Q. Have you noticed any other symptoms like a strange way of smiling
or a foul odor?
A. Yes, particularly those afflicted by a magic spell give off a
very bad odor. Other signs are continuous movements and pains, which
seem to travel around the body. When I recite, they scream, faint or
tremble. Some patients do not do these things and are cured with
just recitation of the Qur’aan.

Q. What about that little boy who was just brought to you?
A. That little boy has a problem with his leg. On Thursdays and
Fridays he is able to walk quite normally, but during the rest of
the week he is unable to walk. He has pains here and here (i.e., his
thighs and lower legs.)

Q. Could the cause be due to his dislike for school?
A. No, he is not going to school at all. I think- and Allah knows
best- that he may be afflicted by the evil eye.

Q. Could you describe a few recent cases of possession, which you
have successfully treated?
A. There are many.

Case No. 1

There was a woman about 28 years old who used to be overcome by
seizures from time to time over a period of two years. Sometimes she
would lose consciousness. Whenever she had fits, they took her to
the hospital, where she received injections, putting her in a
drugged state. About a year ago, she had very intense seizure and
her family brought her to me at 10 o’clock at night. They told me
that the hospital only informed them that she had psychological
problems. When I recited over her it became obvious that she was
possessed, and the cause was from magic. The jinnee in her was a
Buddhist. She did not respond immediately after recitation, but
after pressing her jugular veins, the jinnee presented himself and
informed us about the magician who put the spell on her and the
charm’s location.

Q. Do you believe everything that the jinn say?
A. Not everything they say is to be believed unless it is confirmed.
In this case we found the charm where the jinnee said it was located
and we burned it. Since then she has not had any more seizures.

Case No 2.
About six months ago, a man brought his wife and told me that she
refused to speak to him. She became agitated and depressed whenever
he came near her. After reciting over her, the jinnee appeared and
informed us that her state was due to bewitchment and that the charm
was buried in her father’s grave. We went to the grave, dug it up
and removed the charm, which was made with her hair and fingernail
clippings, and then we burned it. After that she was cured-by the
will of Allah.

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  • maryam salaam

    i want to know if a women with a higher sex drive than a man who is always constanly aroused is possesed by a jinn and what are the signs

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