
After posting part one, part two, part three and part four here is the 5th part in the exorcism series:
Interview No. 5.
Location: Madeenah, Saudi
Arabia Date: 8/4/88
Name: ` Alee Mushrif al-` Amree
Education: Teacher at Islamic University of Madeenah
Q. When and why did you practice exorcism?
A. This situation whereby people came to me for ailments caused by
the jinn began quite recently. When I was appointed as imaam of
Masjid Qubaa and my Qur’anic recitation was good, praise be to Allah-
I was afflicted by the evil eye in my throat. When I got down off
the podium after delivering the Friday sermon and wanted to recite
the Qur’aan for the prayer, I was totally unable to recite the
opening chapter, al-Faatihah. In fact, I could not even say, “Allahu
akbar” (Allah is the greatest.) in order to begin the prayer. Some
of those behind me realized that I had been affected with the evil
eye, and one of them stepped forward and led the prayer for me. When
the prayer was over, people came and greeted and wished me well and
cursed whoever put the evil eye on me. They all knew it was caused
by the evil eye, but there was no way to identify the person because
of the large number of people who prayed in the mosque. I was forced
to resign from leading prayer in the mosque due to inability to
recite or lead the prayer. It even reached the level that I was
unable to teach at the University of Madeenah, and I asked to be
released from my post. Some of my friends and close relatives
suggested that I go to see some magicians. But how could I do that
when I was a teacher of tawheed at the university, teaching that it
was prohibited to go to fortunetellers and magicians? I refused to
go to a magician even if it meant my death. Then I recalled that the
Prophet (PBUH) said,
” Incantation is not allowed, except for the evil eye or the sting
of a scorpion.”
I reflected that this text explicitly allows the believers to use
permissible incantations-and the greatest would be for the evil eye.
So I began to research this issue by gathering together books of
prophetic traditions, commentaries on the Qur’aan, writings of the
scholars about the use of verses and prophetic supplications. I
found that these scholars said that when some Jews wanted to affect
the Prophet (PBUH) with the evil eye, the following verse was
revealed:
“And surely those who disbelieve will almost make you slip with
their eyes when they hear the Reminder [i.e., the Qur'aan], and they
say, “Surely, he is a madman.’ But it is only a reminder to all of
the worlds.” (Qur’aan 68:51-52.)
The scholars say that whenever this verse is recited on someone
afflicted with the evil eye, it cures him by the permission of
Allah. They mentioned their experience in using this verse and its
results. Almighty Allah stated that He reveled in the Qur’aan a
verse, which is a cure and a mercy for the believers. (Qur’aan
17:82.) I found in the authentic traditions that the Prophet (PBUH)
said, “Verily, in the Qur’aan is a cure for your sicknesses.” And I
found that other chapters like the mu’awwithataan and al-Fatihahah
were used for various spiritual aliments. So I gathered these
verses, chapters and prophetic commentaries written about them
usually spoke of the jinn, So, not only did I personally benefit
from this research concerning the evil eye, but I also learned about
the world of the jinn. I discovered what may be recited as
protection against them or for relief for those possessed, and I
discovered the effects of magic and its Qur’anic cures. Reading upon
myself cured most of the effects of the evil eye. Although I am
still unable to raise my voice in recitation between maghrib
and `ishaa’, I have begun to give lectures again and have returned
to teaching.
Shortly after this, I came across an article in the
newspaper about a man from the Mutayree clan in Hadbann (about 300
km from Madeenah) whose place was being burned by fire, and he was
forced to leave his place because of it. The papers mentioned that
after investigation some geologists and other scientists were unable
to solve the problem. So I contacted the civil defense
administration and informed them that the cause was jinn. The man or
a member of his family had harmed the jinn, so they were taking
revenge by hurting the family. I told the administration that with
the Qur’anic recitation it would go away. The civil defense
contacted the Director of the University, who summoned me and told
me that I would be sent by car to Hadbaan, so I went.
When I met the man, I greeted him and asked him what had
happened. He said that he built a seven-room residence and dug a
well there. He placed his camel-hair tent next to his house. While
he and his family were sitting in the house after thuhr, they
noticed a fire had started in the tent. They put it out, assuming
that someone passing by had inadvertently thrown a cigarette into
the tent and caused the fire. So they began to curse the one who did
it. When the sat back down in the living room, they noticed the
smell of smoke and thought that the tent had reignited, but they did
not find it on fire. They began to search in the other rooms for the
source. They discovered that the room next to them was on fire, and
they thought someone had deliberately thrown another lit cigarette
through one of the open windows of the room. Again, they cursed the
perpetrator. However, while they were putting out this fire, they
found that the room in which they had previously sitting was now on
fire. So they realized that it was not as they suspected. They
collected some of their belongings and gathered in one of the
bedrooms. There was a metal wardrobe in this bedroom along with a
metal trunk containing some valuables. They suddenly noticed smoke
coming from inside the metal trunk. When they opened it, they found
their belongings burned to ashes. So they collected their remaining
belongings, left the house, went to the head of the tribe in the
region, and informed him of what had occurred. While the tribal
leader was debating whether the information was true or false, their
car ignited. The leader told them to leave the house and stay in two
tents, which he would set up outside the house. At the time of `asr
prayer, a tent was set up for the women and another for the men.
When maghrib come they left the tents to perform their prayers, the
town tents burst into flames.
Subsequently, every time they set up new tents, they
also went up in flames. They sent a telegram to the King asking him
to save them from the fire. The governor was contacted, and the
civil defense was sent. Another tent was set up for the family, and
two officers from the civil defense sat with al-Mutayree inside the
tent. When they all got up and went outside, the tent ignited and
burned to the ground. The civil defense apologized that they were
unable to do anything further in this case. Next the geologists came
and said that the land was a subject to spontaneous ignition due to
gas seepage, so the man and his family were taken to a town 30
kilometers away, but things kept bursting into flames around them.
The other scientists who said that the combustion was due to
bacteria, they were just as wrong because the combustion would only
occur when they left a place. In fact, whenever someone from the
family remained behind in a place, the fires would happen, but if
they left, salt would spill in the food or soap powder would be
found all over it. Sometimes they would find cow dung or goat
droppings in their food when they left it alone for a moment.
During my first night there I recited in all seven
rooms of the house, then everyone left. We ate at the leader of the
tribe’s house, which was many kilometers away. When we returned that
night, nothing was burned. So we spent the night there without an
incident. I also spent the next night there, and again we left and
returned without any fires igniting. After that I returned to
Madeenah. The newspapers, which like to exaggerate everything, wrote
a number of lengthy articles on the incident and how a hadeeth
scholar from the University had driven away the jinn. Within three
days, people came in droves outside my door informing me that they
were afflicted with jinn, etc. I told them that I was myself
afflicted and I only wanted to help the family in Hadbaan. I
informed them that I had never read over anyone before, but they
insisted that I recite anyway. I felt that if recited and nothing
happened, it would convince them and they would leave. So I recited
over the first case, a woman, and to my surprise the jinnee left her
immediately. That only increased the problem and the crowds got
bigger and bigger. Even now, sometimes nights pass and I am unable
to sleep due to the many cases, which are brought to me.
Q. How long have you been exorcising people?
A. I have been exorcising people for two years.
Q. What are the main signs of possession?
A. There are many. For instance, a man may come to me complaining
that he feels as though chains are tied to his body between his
stomach and his neck and at times something seems to suffocate him.
When I recite over him for a while, he begins to take deep breaths
and his body begins to shake. If I grab him by the neck and speak to
the jinnee in him, it begins to speak. When I ask the jinnee its
name, it gives a name different from that of a man, or the jinnee
may say that she is a woman. Once I recited over a brother and
ordered the possessing spirit, “Get out you evil, male jinnee,” and
it replied, “I am a woman not a man.” When I asked her, “Why did you
take him?” she replied, “I did not come to him, he came to me. I was
in a well along with my children and he climbed down the well and
hurt us.” When the man regained consciousness, he confirmed her
story, saying that he had a well and when he had climbed down into
it, he felt something enter his stomach like an arrow.
One possessed by a jinnee exhibits some strange movements
and speaks without realizing it. People will inform the person after
regaining consciousness about the things he had said.
If a person experiences nightmares or a state of
immobility at the time of going to sleep or between the state of
wakefulness and sleep, these are among the beginning signs of
possession. They must be treated immediately; otherwise they will
lead to major problems later. If Aayah al Kursee is recited
repeatedly, the jinnee will go away and not return.
Q. How do you distinguish between a possessed person and one who is
bewitched?
A. These two states are quite similar and can easily be mistaken for
each other. When researching these cases, one finds that magic
operates by way of the jinn. The magician is not able to affect the
one on whom he casts the spell except with the help of the jinn. I
am able to tell the difference during treatment. Treating jinn-
possession is much easier than breaking the magic spell. The
companions of the Prophet (PBUH) recited over a possessed person
three times and he got well. The Prophet (PBUH) addressed a
possessed person on one occasion and he was cured. However, the
spell, which was cast upon the Prophet (PBUH), lasted for six
months. It was not broken until he was informed where the charm was
and it was dismantled. This tells us that complete cure will usually
only take place when the charm has been destroyed. Finding the charm
is not easy unless one discovers the one who cast the spell and
forces him to destroy it. If the charm is not found, it is very
difficult to cure. The spell can be broken without the charm, but it
requires continuous treatment and patience. I have treated a few
cases successfully, so it can be done, but it requires long,
continuous treatment. When verses are read over a possessed person,
he becomes uneasy and begins to make many unnecessary movements.
This tells you that the cause is jinn. If the verses of magic
(aayaat as-sihr) are read over a bewitched person, he will also
exhibit additional movements. One knows by experience the difference
between two. In the beginning it is not easy to tell. Now when a
patient comes and I recite over him some verses I am able to tell
his relatives if he is under a spell or possessed. Because of that,
some people say that I am a magician. Some tell me that I am dealing
with magic because they went to magicians who confirmed what I said.
However, it is only coincidence. If the patient’s movements are
strange or unusual, it may be due to jinn-possession. If not, it is
probably due to magic. Spells often affect only one particular
characteristic of the person. If the person develops a phobia about
something; it is probably due to a magical spell. For example, a
person suddenly develops an intense dislike for is job. If you take
him anywhere else he is fine, but if you take him to his job he
refuses to go. His supervisor would then terminate him because e
does not wish to work. This is probably due to magic. However, it
might be mixed with the evil eye. The difference is that the person
under the spell will act crazily when taken to something he
dislikes; those affected by the jinn will develop a dislike of
filthy things. For example, he may refuse to enter a bathroom. He
may dislike entering a number of places and he develops a fear of
them. Also, he will begin to like being alone, avoiding people. The
jinn want to be secluded with the one possessed.
Q. Do only non – Muslim jinn possess?
A. No, the possessing spirit could be Muslim, but a corrupt one,
like corrupt Muslim humans.
Q. Can righteous jinn possess humans for their benefit?
A. No, the act of possession is an act of oppression. However, if a
human develops a habit of doing righteous act, like prayer at a
particular time, and he oversleeps or forgets, a righteous jinnee
(or angel, according to some scholars) will sometimes remind him. He
may hear a voice calling him to get up, when he awakens, no one is
there.
Q. Are people possessed by only one jinnee at a time?
A. There are no limitations for the jinn in this regard. It is not a
case where one enters and the host is full.
Q. How do the jinn possess humans?
A. They enter most often from the feet. One feels as though an ant
is crawling on one’s foot and then up ones leg. This continues until
it occupies the whole body. Or it may come feeling like a sharp
arrow piercing ones stomach. Then it seems to enter the throat. A
third way is that one experiences a very severe headache which
temporarily causes a complete loss of consciousness, then it
descends on the remainder of the body. Or one may suffer from and
extreme bout of depression.
Ibn Taymeeyah divided the jinn with regard to their affecting
humans into three groups: 1) a group which attacks humans and may
even kill them, 2) a group which possesses humans without killing or
harming them, but it is difficult to get them to leave, and 3) a
group which harms them slightly and leaves quickly. The third group
is the most common. They are the mischievous type, which will
possess without any logical cause. They possess just to do harm, and
they only control humans whose hearts are empty, vacant of the
remembrance of Allah. Jinn usually occupy filthy, vacant deserted
places. If the Qur’aan is recited over someone possessed by this
type of jinnee, it leaves quickly because it had no real purpose
besides mischief. The second group consists of jinn who possess
humans out of passionate love, and they usually cause epileptic
fits. This type requires long treatment because it is the most
difficult to remove. The fist group is the worst and most dangerous.
They harm humans according to the level of harm, which humans did to
them. If someone threw a stone and killed one of them, they may kill
him or one of his children. If part of the body was paralyzed from
human harm, the jinn will cause the paralysis of a part of the
person who harmed him. This is the type that the Prophet (PBUH)
warned us about and he gave us prayers to protect ourselves from
them. Muslims are instructed to mention the name of Allah before
entering the toilets, when leavening and entering their homes, when
eating, when discharging a weapon during hunting, when throwing
anything or when pouring hot water. The last to are the most common
causes for the possession of woman. I will cite three cases of this
type.
A woman was brought to me unconscious, and when I recited over her,
the spirit left and she regained her consciousness. I asked her what
had happened. She replied that she had left her house after maghrib-
and this is when possession most often takes place, which is why the
Prophet (PBUH) said in an authentic tradition:
“When the night falls, keep your children in your homes because the
devils spread out in that hour, and saw a black cat which ran into
her apartment. She chased it from room to room, trying to expel it,
until she cornered it in the bedroom. There she took her nightgown
from a chair hit it, and it ran under the bed. She looked under the
bed but did not see it. So she assumed that it must have left
without her realizing it. When her husband returned later on that
night and she put on her nightgown, it possessed her from her
nightgown. However, because her harm to it was slight, it readily
left after a single recitation over her and did not return.
Another unconscious woman was brought to me, and after I
recited over her and grasped her throat, the jinnee began to speak,
because it suffered from this. Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymeeyah and
other scholars used to beat their patients, but I found that beating
sometimes hurts the person. The jinnee spoke, saying, “My name is
Saalih.” Then I said, “Saalih is a Muslim name.” And he replied, “I
am a Muslim.” I scolded him, saying, “Since you are a Muslim, why
are you hurting this Muslim woman?” He said, “She hurt me. Why did
she hurt me? I asked how she hurt him and he replied, ” She poured
hot water on me in the toilet and wounded me. She did not even warn
me.” I questioned, “How could she have heard warned you?” He
said, “By saying bismillaah (In the name of Allah). I would have
heard her and left.” When the woman regained consciousness, I asked
her if she poured hot water in the toilet, and she confirmed that
she had. So I told her to mention Allah’s name before doing so in
the future. As for the possessing jinnee, he left and did not return
again.
Q. Are there other circumstances when the jinn may possess humans?
A. The weapons are in ones hands to protect oneself from falling
into their evil. Whenever a Muslim leaves or enters his home, he
should mention the name of Allah. When he goes to sleep, he should
recite Aayah al-Kursee. One should try not to leave any
opportunities for them to attack. The Prophet (PBUH) mentioned
certain circumstances which should be avoided: 1) Do not sleep by
yourself in an empty house or in the desert. The Prophet (PBUH)
prohibited people from sleeping alone because the devil may gain
control over them. 2) Do not travel alone. He named the one who
travels alone “satan”, the two who travel together “two devils”
(shaytaanaan), and three “a caravan” (rakb). Most people who are
possessed either forgot to mention Allah’s name before pouring hot
water of throwing something, or they slept or traveled alone.
The jinn usually possess people when they are in a state of
either extreme fear or excessive frivolity. For example, there is a
type of jinn called jinn az-zaar which possesses people during
musical parties. It can be treated. When the participants of such
gatherings are filled with the spirits, the exorcist grasps them by
the throat and recites over them until the jinn leave.
Q. What are the Qur’anic verses which you read over the possessed?
A. Most of them can be found in Sunan Abee Daawood, al-Athkaar by an
Nawawee, Tathkirah ath-Thaakireen by ash-Shawkaanee, Sharh al-Hirz
al- Haseen and at-Tibb an –Nabawee. It is good to read Soorah al-
Jinn, Soorah al-Kaafiroon, Soorah al-Ikhlaas, Soorah al-Falaq and
Soorah an –Nas. These last four may be read three tijes each or
seven times each. There are also prophetic prayers which have been
used successfully by some scholars, as well as supplications used by
early scholars which are mentioned by Ibn al-Qayyim in his book,
Zaad al – Ma’aad. That is the from the point of the exorcist. The
possessed is recommended to recite the seven verses on magic, among
them are the following verses: Qur’aan, 10:81,20:69 and 7:117-121.
These three soorahs contain seven verses, which have been tried and
tested by scholars with very good results.
Q. It is necessary to take an oath from the jinn before they depart?
A. It is necessary in order to discourage them from returning.
Sometimes I will grasp the patients neck and say, “I ask you by the
One besides whom there is no god, the Ever-Living , the Self-
Subsisting, to speak on her tongue without hurting her,” and it will
begin to talk. It may say, “What do you want?’ or “This is none of
your business.”
Q. Do the jinn speak in the voice of the possessed?
A. Yes, the jinn speak in the same dialect and with the same voice.
But I did have a case where a common, uneducated person recited the
Qur’aan better than I could. If I recited over him Aayah al –Kursee,
he would say, “I have learned it better than you.” And he would
proceed to recite it.
Q. What is the role of the quareen in possession?
A. The jinnee assigned to a person may inform the magician or
fortuneteller’s jinnee all about you. So they appear capable of
knowing the unseen. There was a case in the time of Caliph al-Mahdee
(ruled 775-785 CE) in which a man entered his court and claimed that
he was a prophet receiving revelation. He was asked for proof and he
said, “Everyone put in his hand a specific number of items. I will
leave and come back and inform you of what you have in your hands.
This will prove what I say because it could only take place by
revelation. “They did as he asked and he informed them of the exact
amounts in their hands. They were amazed until a scholar came and
told them that the man was lying to them. The scholar said that the
man was really a magician. They asked how he knew that and he told
them that he would demonstrate. He said, “If he is able to tell what
is in my hand, he is a true prophet.” Then he told the man to leave.
He took out a number of dirhams and held some in his hand. When the
man returned, the scholar asked him to inform them. The man lowered
his head for a moment then raised it up and said, “Thirty.” The
scholar opened his hand and showed that he had over one hundred.
When asked how the imposter did it the fist time, he told them that
they counted what was in their hands and their jinn counted along
with them and informed the imposter jinnee. However, the scholar
grasped a quantity without counting them, so his jinnee was unable
to count them: therefore, the magician could not find out what he
had. The man was beaten and he admitted the truth.
There is a popular school of thought spreading in these
times called mediumship. It is all lies and involves magic. If
someone says, “But I heard my father’s voice,” the answer should
be “No you heard your father’s jinnee.” The quareen may not die when
the man dies. It may live for some time. So if the person’s father’s
jinnee is still around, it is able to talk in his dialect, just as
jinn often speak in the exact same voice of the humans they posses.
Their voices are indistinguishable from their hosts, whether male of
female. The jinnee, through the medium, will inform a person of
things only known to him and his father, because he was with him.
The ignorant believe that it is the spirit of the dead
communicating. However, it is impossible, because the Qur’aan and
the Sunnah clearly state that the souls of the dead cannot return to
this life.


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